Chris May

Here is an article that I would have loved to have read like a year ago.

I downloaded, and have started messing around with vim, jEdit, and AnyEdit.

I don't know about VIM, but it looks like jEdit might be able to do what I am looking for via plugins, mainly "jBrowse" and "CodeAid". I believe these are built to work with java source code files, but if the plugins are open source, I could change them to do what I want.

AnyEdit talks about having built in support for this kind of stuff via external config files, but there are none for download, as it looks like the product is still in beta.

It looks like I have resolved my issues with CASL, at least for now.

I have no idea why I was getting those fatal errors, but it turns out that the grid overflows only on OS 3.0.X devices. OS 3.1.X will work, but won't show the correct ellipse symbol (...). I couldn't find an OS 3.2 ROM, but on OS 3.3.X, it works fine.

I thought last night was going to be a quick final build of the programs, and then I would spend most time double checking that the installs all worked, but it turned out to be a night of debugging hell. All kinds of errors when trying to run some builds on my Palm OS 3 device or emulator. But I only get these errors when I change something in the form editor, nothing in my code. Nothing in my code references anything that would cause these errors, meaning... if all you are doing is asking for the .display of an object, and setting the .display, then it doesn't really matter if that object is a textbox or a label, but for some reason, when I get to some magical limit, if I change another label to a textbox then all goes to hell.

This is all really stemming from the grid bug that I am again going to try to get an answer on.

I posted on the CASL Board 3 times (or more) about this grid bug, posts here, here, and here.

I can't believe that this isn't a "big" issue for CASL developers, so I guess that means that either 1) no one is testing their apps on Palm OS3 devices, or they are testing their apps without long enough strings to see the problem, or 2) There is something about my setup that is causing this problem, or 3) When people get this problem, they do what I did, which is to replace the labels with a textbox, but this is not a good option because the textboxes will wrap, even if its only 1 line, and I can't even run my program after switching to textboxes now for some reason that I have no way of knowing.

I uploaded another image of the bug to go along with my existing images here, here, and here, where the last of the 3 is running on OS4, so it looks fine, while the first 2 are on OS3.

I'm even posting up a sample project to cause this error, to see if I can get ANYONE to recreate the problem.

I have been toying with the idea of building my own code editor for CASL, because I really don't like the one that is built into it's IDE.

Here are some links for code editors (and google lists) that might be extended through macros and addins to do what I want:
http://www.vim.org
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Open_Source/Software/Editors/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Editors/

I've been writing this tennis software for years now, and I'm just about finished with it.

But, I am still getting this problem using the CASL grid object in older Palms.

In OS4.x, any label that I have in a grid will end with "..." if it is too long for the label, but in my emulator of OS3.0, or on my old PalmIII, the labels overflow their grid cells, making for an ugly picture.

I thought I had resolved this problem by using Textboxes instead of grids, but the problem with Textboxes I found out, is that they wrap, and you can't keep them from wrapping. So if someone's name is long enough, you will only see the first part of their name. Not good.

Here are the images, with a 2 column grid with the 2nd col being a 1% col overflowing. The OS 3-2, image clearly shows the overflow problem.
OS 3
OS 3-2
OS 4